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October 06, 2010

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CJW

He's a sack of shit.

Kevin

Dang. I was going to write a scathing paragraph or two about this guy, but CJW summed it up too succinctly :(.

Kevin

Ouch. I just realized something. Frank doesn't talk to me anymore.

Will le Fey

This just proves that you people can't be trusted to defend freedom of speech when you're the ones being offended.

Frank Warner

Speak for yourself, Will. I'll defend to the death the professor's right to offend, just as I'm sure you'll defend my right to offend the professor.

Freedom of expression is not the question here.

Frank Warner

Hi Kevin. I'm talking!

Will le Fey

Muhammed is passe. Try it with Geert Wilders giving a blowjob to Hitler.

Frank Warner

Ooooh, that's daring ... not.

CJW

Woman Uses Crow Bar While Destroying Sexualized Artwork of Jesus

If it were Islam-related, violence to the artist would have ensued.

Frank Warner

Neither violence nor censorship should be tolerated in response to harmless offensive expression, even if that offensive expression is stupid and mean-spirited.

Kevin

Frank talked to me! All is right with the world again.

What?

The thing is, if it was Mohammed. They would be ticked about his image. The BJ, not so much, as Mohammed was kind of a sex freak who probably loved a good blow job.

Frank Warner

Maybe not, What.

Few Muslims care whether Mohammed's image is shown, if it is shown with respect. There is no Islamic law against it. In fact, there is an image of Mohammed on the U.S. Supreme Court building in Washington, D.C., and there has been no protest against it since the building went up in 1935.

CJW

Art Critical of Islam Censored at Penn State

Frank Warner

The Penn State story raises all the critical points on the debate over freedom of expression.

First, we all have every right to be harmlessly offensive. Second, we all have every right to harmlessly criticize those expressions that we consider offensive. And third, the government must never censor or punish any harmless expression, no matter whom it may offend.

As individuals, each of us should condemn expressions we consider to be hate. But we must never let government outlaw any harmless expression, no matter how hateful that expression may seem.

It's government's job to outlaw democratically the use of sticks and stones to break innocent bones. Government has no right to try sorting out hate from humor, ire from irony, criminal intent from parody. It certainly has no right to punish the words that never hurt me.

Let's All Draw Mohammed

Free Kathleen Folden.

Frank Warner

Sorry, Kathleen, but physical violence isn't allowed. Violence against property is wrong in itself, and it can accidentally lead to violence that hurts people.

uzza

Hey genius, the panel just to the left of the one she tore up is a picture of Mohammed.

Frank Warner

Good point, Uzza.

uzza

What's this? A guy who admits he was wrong? Even apologizes? In what alternate universe have I found myself? And even after I wasn't even polite in my comment, too.

Kudos to you, for being man enough to do all that, and also my apologies for being a jerk.

Frank Warner

Thanks for pointing out Chagoya's other picture panel. I've been waiting for an equal-opportunity American offender (in the harmless artistic offense category) for years. I certainly don't want to condemn Chagoya when he delivers.

That said, I also am not encouraging everyone to offend everyone else. But I am pointing out that it's a lot easier for artists (and I'm thinking mainly about our timid movie industry) to go after safe targets than to upset those who punish such free expression with beheadings.

Sometimes we offend to make people angry, and sometimes we offend to make a point about freedom. And because none of us can read minds, we must never respond with personal violence or government censorship. We have to assume on a basic level that every harmless offense serves the cause of freedom.

Gregj

The purpose of good art is to make people think and feel. Obviously this made the crowbar wielding trucker feel something!
With that said, there are better ways to express your like or dislike of something.

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