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September 26, 2008

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George

I thought it was very even, too, but only because the debate really had no depth. My biggest peeve: Obama just denies reality and that seems to be the end of it.

Obama claims he would end the war "responsibly" when he truly had a plan that was nothing short of surrender. Obama was able to pretend that he never had such a plan.

Obama has similar rejections of reality in regard to spending, growing government and simultaneously claiming to reduce taxes.

I'm looking forward to the vice presidential debates. This one was a dud.

David Holliday

I thought the zinger of the night was by McCain but it doesn't seem to be getting much play. It was toward the end and it was in a criticism of Obama's unwillingness to admit the surge worked. The line was this, "...you know, we've seen this stubbornness before in this administration -- to cling to a belief that somehow the surge has not succeeded and failing to acknowledge that he was wrong about the sure is -- shows to me that we -- that -- that we need more flexibility in a president of the United States than that."

"...we've seen this stubbornness before in this administration..." When I heard that I went "Ouch!" The look on Obama's face was priceless.

Now granted, McCain undoubtedly waited all night for the right moment to launch that line. Even so, for me it hit home.

In my opinion, that line, along with Obama's immediate response, provides the McCain campaign the ammunition to render impotent every attempt by Obama to portray McCain as a caricature of Bush. It potentially turns the table completely and ties Obama's pattern of behavior to one of Democrats greatest criticisms of Bush. Bush’s unwillingness to admit he ever made a mistake.

I wonder if McCain can use it.

David Holliday

Grrrr... typos. I typed surge wrong in the first paragraph above. Where it says "...that he was wrong about the sure is..." should be "...that he was wrong about the surge is..."

George

Another example of Obama reality denial?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP06C37o35Q

George

It appears what Obama said about Henry Kissinger during the debate was incorrect. Obama claimed that Kissinger essentially supported his position on negotiating with Ahmadinejad without preconditions. Kissinger issued a response that rebuked Obama's claim.

George

Did Obama “Immediately” Condemn the Invasion of Georgia as he claimed in the debate? Short answer: No.

Neo
Obama: I'm glad the Senator McCain brought up the bipartisan history of us engaging in direct diplomacy. Senator McCain mentioned Henry Kissinger who is one of his advisors who along with 5 Secretaries of State just said that we should meet with Iran; Guess what? He said without preconditions. This is one of your own advisers...

McCain: Look. Dr. Kissinger did not say that he would approve a face to face meeting between the President of the United States and Ahmadinejad. he did not say that. He said there could be lower level meetings. I've always encouraged them. The Iranians have met with Ambassador Crocker in Baghdad. What senator Obama doesn't understand is that without precondition you sit down with someone who has called Israel a stinking corpse and wants to destroy that country and wipe it off the map, you legitimize those comments. This is dangerous. This isn't just naive... By the way, Dr. Kissinger who has been my friend for 35 years would be interested to hear Senator Obama's depiction on the issue. I've known him for 35 years

Obama: (interrupting) Lets take a look.

... yeah .. let's take a look ...
KISSINGER: Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it. And, therefore, I actually have preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we -- we know we're dealing with authentic...
(CROSSTALK)

SESNO: Put at a very high level right out of the box?

KISSINGER: Initially, yes. And I always believed that the best way to begin a negotiation is to tell the other side exactly what you have in mind and what you are -- what the outcome is that you're trying to achieve so that they have something that they can react to.

Last time I checked, the President was not Secretary Of State.

CJW

And that bracelet Hussein was wearing, it was without permission. But that shouldn't stand in the way of a candidate looking like he supports the troops when in reality his opposition to the president's efforts in Iraq and his enabling of the enemy has been the rule since the war started.

AP Confirms Mother Asked Obama To Stop Using Bracelet And Son’s Name
http://patdollard.com/2008/09/ap-confirms-mother-asked-obama-to-stop-using-bracelet-and-sons-name/

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